New Controller Design Concept

Well it’s certainly been a while and we’re slowly but surely getting back into a good rhythm.

One of the most popular requests with the controller is to add 6 buttons to the controller.

That product designer has sent over the first drafts of the updated controller design. Keep in mind that this is only concept right now. We’ll integrate more features based on what kind of feedback we get from the community.

Considered features for the controller:

  • Update the layout of the Back / Select button to allow space for an LED screen (this can significantly impact battery life)
  • An alternative method to implement VMU compatibility for the Dreamcast. (ideas are welcome)

If you haven’t seen it, here’s a little video from our Instagram account:

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We’d love to hear what you think because your input is what is going to make this project great.

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75 thoughts on “New Controller Design Concept

  1. Reply
    RYR99 - April 29, 2018

    Welcome to the 21st century, the six button controllers are coming back! But could we see some gameplay in the next update?

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      Bill E. - June 5, 2018

      Yay

  2. Reply
    RYR99 - April 29, 2018

    I think this is an amazing idea! We could play retro games with that controller! 🙂

    1. Reply
      Scott Devine - April 30, 2018

      and next generation games

    2. Chris L
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      Chris L - April 30, 2018

      Thank you! 🙂

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        Zach - May 24, 2018

        Sonic 4k looks a great concept. Hope SEGA accepts the console.

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    RYR99 - April 29, 2018

    You could use the back of the controller as the VMU port.

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    Julian Najm - April 29, 2018

    I’m loving it! But why will the Spartan need that much power for running emulators?

    1. Reply
      RYR99 - April 29, 2018

      Because, Julian. With that much power, you could play games in 4K60 format.

      1. Reply
        RYR99 - April 29, 2018

        Instead of using a capture card, you could record it on the Spartan Console instantly.

    2. Chris L
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      Chris L - April 30, 2018

      We’re aiming to cater for new generation games too.

  5. Reply
    RYR99 - April 29, 2018

    You could use the bottom bit for the controller and put a VMU inside.

    1. Chris L
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      Chris L - April 30, 2018

      The main issue isn’t where to put a “VMU” like extension, it’s more about the fact that a VMU will drastically reduce the battery life. Which means more frequent charges or playing via cable while it charges.

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    RYR99 - April 29, 2018

    And instead of four players, do five players.

    1. Chris L
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      Chris L - April 30, 2018

      By utilizing the display port on the Spartan, one could plug in 2 TVs and play up to 8 players. But that’s going to definitely eat up resources on the hardware.

  7. Reply
    Mikey Calhoun - April 30, 2018

    That controller is breath taking, pure greatness. This controller looks legendary nice job tream.

    1. Chris L
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      Chris L - April 30, 2018

      Thanks Mikey!!

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    Göröcs Lajos Zsolt - April 30, 2018

    It looks very cool! But in my opinion, it needs to be a little bit bigger. Not like the original Xbox’s Duke controller, but like the Dreamcast’s controller size. Other than that, there is no other issue regards to the controller.

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    Barrett - April 30, 2018

    What if the D pad had a central button integrated in with the up, down, left, and right controls? Not so useful for 2d games I know, but it could be useful for modern games that use the d-pad as secondary option buttons like inventory or weapons.

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      Barrett - April 30, 2018

      OR…. what if there were paddles under the handles like on the Xbox Elite controller that were their own buttons instead of programable add-ons. Maybe not 4, just 2 would work.

      1. Chris L
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        Chris L - April 30, 2018

        This is something we’ll consider for phase 2 of the console and controller.

      2. Reply
        Tracii vyper - May 22, 2018

        And those could be the turbo buttons from the original concept!

    2. Chris L
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      Chris L - April 30, 2018

      Do you mean the D pad could click inwards similar to how an analog stick does?

      1. Reply
        Barrett - April 30, 2018

        Yeah, like that

  10. Reply
    Barrett - April 30, 2018

    Also, can I have permission to use these images as well as other images from this website for my Wikipedia page about this subject? Please and thanks!

    1. Chris L
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      Chris L - April 30, 2018

      Absolutely. 🙂

      1. Reply
        Barrett - May 1, 2018

        I have a link for you to view. Its the wiki page I was talking about. Its incomplete and I need some more info and references.

        1. Chris L
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          Chris L - May 2, 2018

          Could we see the link?

          1. Barrett - May 3, 2018

            Sorry about that! I didn’t think the reply was sent. Here it is
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LEO_XART/sandbox

          2. Chris L
            Chris L - May 9, 2018

            Whoops. Just saw this now. Thanks 🙂

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        Barrett - May 1, 2018

        here it is! It’s unfinished, and it needs more details and references so if you want to get ahold of me to tell me more just email me.
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LEO_XART/sandbox

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          SegaSonic - May 2, 2018

          Dude, I’m all for this, but… WHAT WERE YOU THINKING!!!? The moment people see this page, they’ll be making videos, they being using this in Youtube memes, they’ll be giving this more criticism than it already can handle! Sorry for the outburst, but I’m worried that this will get criticized too early.

          1. Barrett - May 3, 2018

            I made my article in my user sandbox for a reason. The user sandbox is meant for newcomers to Wikipedia to learn how to type articles, so nothing is taken seriously or taken down. But if I have references to everything in my article I can make it a real Wikipedia article, something that Spartan team needs to get ahold of me about so I can finish it. Thanks for the heads up though

          2. Chris L
            Chris L - May 9, 2018

            Thank you! COuld you provide a URL?

          3. Barrett - May 3, 2018

            I made my article in my user sandbox for a reason. The user sandbox is meant for newcomers to Wikipedia to learn how to type articles, so nothing is taken seriously or taken down. But if I have references to everything in my article I can make it a real Wikipedia article, something that Spartan team needs to get ahold of me about so I can finish it. Thanks for the heads up though

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          CosmicX - May 2, 2018

          I think you should change the backwards capability section to make it clear it is software emulation and is not able to take games from the Dreamcast, Saturn, or Genesis. (I know it is obvious but is something people will point out as false)

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    RYR99 - April 30, 2018

    I am posting a video based on this update! :>)

  12. Reply
    RYR99 - April 30, 2018

    What if we include gameplay in the next update?

  13. Reply
    Christopher - April 30, 2018

    Like the controller design, what color do you plan to make the l.e.ds ?

    1. Chris L
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      Chris L - May 2, 2018

      The LED will change to blue.

      1. Reply
        Cody - May 9, 2018

        Dreamcast Orange please!

  14. Reply
    Scott Devine - April 30, 2018

    Hey Chris

    Can you show the video of viewing photos, playing music and videos on the next update?

  15. Reply
    Scott Devine - April 30, 2018

    Will the VMU handheld controller feature Sonic advance 1, 2, 3 and Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush adventure games?

    1. Reply
      Scott Devine - May 1, 2018

      Oops. sorry.

  16. Reply
    sega king - May 1, 2018

    I just hope sega will take this offer

  17. Reply
    GP - May 1, 2018

    It will probably been a bide because when Spartan will coming on the market, ps 5 and xbox next or two will already come and it will be the 9th generation. I advice you to upgrade the console’s power.

    1. Chris L
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      Chris L - May 2, 2018

      We plan to upgrade the GPU power in the next revision.

  18. Reply
    SegaSonic - May 2, 2018

    Will the A, B, C, X, Y, Z buttons be analog, as apposed to digital?

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      SegaSonic - May 4, 2018

      As well as the triggers?

      1. Chris L
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        Chris L - May 9, 2018

        Indeed

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          SegaSonic - June 27, 2018

          Just a heads up, you might want to increase the height of the buttons of they will be analog, because… well… the NeGcon controller for the Playstation has 2 digital buttons, and 2 analong buttons, and those analog buttons are raised. That helps identify the sensitivity of the buttons.

  19. Reply
    RYR99 - May 3, 2018

    New video was released on my channel earlier today!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1ppkcGhpxw

  20. Reply
    RYR99 - May 3, 2018

    New video was released on my channel earlier today!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1ppkcGhpxw

  21. Reply
    Barrett - May 4, 2018

    Could you guys email me with info and references for my Wikipedia page on the Spartan? I need more info if you want it to be a real article.

    1. Reply
      SegaSonic - May 21, 2018

      Barrett, you might eant to look in your sandbox. Someone edited it for you. I don’t know exactly where, but it’s been edited, but not in a bad way, I don’t think. Just read it and tell me if there’s anything bad, okay?

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    Jonathan W - May 5, 2018

    This looks like you have a clear motive. I really like the ideas and concept, even if I am sceptical about these fan made systems. I just have a few questions:
    Would you consider changing the gpu or cpu to AMD in the future?
    Would you consider making it a proprietary system?
    Are you planning on making the console smaller in later revisions?
    If SEGA does not partner with you or buy your prototype and intellectual properties, would you consider crowd funding?
    Sorry this comment is very long, these were my instant thoughts upon reading about your console. Hope to hear from you!

    1. Chris L
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      Chris L - May 9, 2018

      1. Our console is divided into 3 development phases. Right now we’re still in the first phase.
      2. It will definitely be smaller in future versions. 🙂
      3. If Sega does not accept this we will move forward with selling it to the public. Crowd funding may not be necessary.

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    Mista the trash friend - May 5, 2018

    did anyone post about this on /v/?
    because someone shoud post this on /v/
    :V

    1. Chris L
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      Chris L - May 9, 2018

      What is /v/ ?

  24. Reply
    sega king - May 7, 2018

    This is not fair atari is getting a new console and you guys are trying your hardest to give sega one.

  25. Reply
    TimeToMakeSomeCrazyMoney - May 8, 2018

    Is there a way you could make the CAD files available or something? I have a ton of ideas for this controller and I think having more than these pictures would be a big help.

  26. Reply
    hd - May 14, 2018

    I think it looks too exometric, can u soften the edges?

    1. Chris L
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      Chris L - May 15, 2018

      The design has been updated. You’ll see it in the next update 😉

  27. Reply
    PrashBricks III - May 19, 2018

    I would like it if you would add some kind of sega dreamcast VMU in the controller,

    or make it so that you can play emulated sega games on the controller in “portability mode” meaning that the controller has a screen witch you can power on, to play sega sg-1000, master system, mega drive and maybe even Saturn and dreamcast on the bus for example. That way you can off the screen when you are playing in front of the TV or monitor, and save battery life. (In order to make this useful you will need to make the controller rechargeable for good battery life, for example with microusb.)

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    MiREK - May 20, 2018

    Hey, what do you think of the recent Dreamcast 2 rumours?

    1. Reply
      SegaSonic - June 3, 2018

      What rumors?

  29. Reply
    Scott Devine - May 21, 2018

    Hey, Chris.

    1. Can I resume game saves on classic emulators for Spartan?
    2. Is there a new Sonic spin-off game titled Future Saviors, featuring new generation of Sonic characters known as Future Saviors, led by Sonic and Amy’s son, Speedy?
    3. Will Future Saviors come to Spartan?
    4. Will Sonic Adventure 3 be happening?

  30. Reply
    Dan C. - May 22, 2018

    Awesome! This controller looks great! I hope that Sega notices this project.

  31. Reply
    SegaSonic - June 3, 2018

    Maybe this will grab attention. On the controller, you can attach a phone holder, and with a special app, you can play some games with a second screen. Huh? Whattaya think?

  32. Reply
    SegaSonic - June 20, 2018

    I feel this system should go to patreon. This should get people’s attention, and grab support. Razor has already, but not everyone wants in, I’ll bet.

  33. Reply
    Mystic Monkey - July 12, 2018

    I’m liking the new controller design. As I suggested in the Halloween blog, “functionality for an XBox360 controller but feel like holding a Saturn or Dreamcast controller” and it looks good you got that. The six-button layout will really help if modern compilations like “SEGA Mega Drive & Genesis Classics” is played on it, it will have the ideal control-layout for it.

    I have a quesiton about the console. How backwards compatable will it be? Will it be able to read both Compact and Gigabyte Discs? (Mega-CD, Saturn and Dreamcast)

    On a side-note, has Sega ever got back to you guys on the proposition of a new-gen console?

  34. Reply
    Mo - July 18, 2018

    Any new updates on this?? Thanks

  35. Reply
    Funny Paradox - September 12, 2018

    That Seem Awsome

  36. Reply
    Mo - October 8, 2018

    Is this for real????

  37. Reply
    Mo - November 28, 2018

    Any Updates on This?

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